King Saul And The Fallen Church
1Samuel 28:6 And when Saul enquired of the LORD,
the LORD answered him not, neither by dreams, nor by Urim, nor
Saul is a powerful type of the corrupt entity that calls itself
“the church” today. The sins of the church are not limited to
the Roman Catholicism as has been commonly preached. The truth
is that the protestant church from its very inception has been
steeped with the very same poison the only difference being
a redefinition of terms and in many cases a more subtle approach.
These same sin stains are not contained within one or more specific
old-line denominations or certain conventions of old-line denominations
as has been commonly preached in our day.
The sins of the Church have been a leaven that has gone
through the entire lump from the Pope down to the pastor of
the smallest most rural protestant church containing only half
a dozen members. The leaven has been spread from the most-lofty
of teachers and theologians down to the those who have not yet
even come to the feet of Christ. The corruption is so pervasive
that even before one can confess with their lips Christ as Lord
they have already been corrupted. How so? By books, tapes, TV,
movies, and the corrupt teachings and preachings that are carried
forth by every preacher teacher and believer.
had begun in the Spirit and ended up in the flesh. Saul had
been saved and filled with the Spirit and made into a new man,
but he then sinned greatly so that the Spirit of the Lord had
departed from him, and he became possessed of evil spirits.
And because of this man’s evil and corruption he lost his salvation,
he lost the filling of the Holy Spirit and he lost the kingdom. For 1800 long years the Church has been without Prophet and Apostle
and everyman has gone his own way and done that which was right
in their own eyes. And over those 1800 years we need to consider
that the Lord has NOT answered whether is was a Pope or Protestant
theologian or preacher by dreams, nor by Urim, nor by prophets. This is an incredibly ominous
thing when regarding the apostles Peters words in Acts chapter
2 “This is that.” The church lost the sign that which Peter
spoke of as being the hallmark of God being with his Ek-Klesia,
Revelation 18:1-3 And after
these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having
great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. And
he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen,
and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean
and hateful bird. For all nations have drunk of the wine of
the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have
committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth
are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
like king Saul once the Church fell from Grace and God withdrew
his Spirit the church became a habitation of devils.
are swiftly moving to the final judgment of God where the Lord
shall gather out all that offends and destroy it,
Matthew 13:41 The Son of man
shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his
kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
the Lord shall gather all the tares and burn them first . .
both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest
I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first
the tares, and bind them in bundles to
burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire;
so shall it be in the end of this world.
1 Corinthians 3:11-13,15 For other foundation can (a) man lay
than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if any man build upon this
foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare
it, because it shall
be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it
is. If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself
shall be saved; yet so as by fire
1 Corinthians 3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
corruption and the defilement of God’s people is so great and
so far reaching none of this day shall escape the flames of
judgment –except they fall upon the stone and be broken here
I would say unto you that those who are corrupt shall fulfill
every word of Christ that he spoke again the religious corrupt
of His day.
23:27-35 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear
beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones,
and of all uncleanness. Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous
unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye
build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres
of the righteous, And say, If we had been in the days of our
fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood
of the prophets. Wherefore
ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of
them which killed the prophets. Fill ye up then the measure
of your fathers. Ye
serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation
of hell? Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise
men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify;
and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues (Churches),
and persecute them from city to city: That upon you may come
all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood
of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias,
whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
I fear for
the Church particularly for the young and the babes in Christ
that are to be destroyed in the wholesale slaughter that is
coming to the church. As for the stiff necked hard-hearted leaders
that pontificate of their holiness and righteousness they shall
be made to Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the
damnation of hell? Wherefore, behold, I send unto
you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye
shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in
your synagogues (Churches), and persecute them from city to
city: That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon
the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of
Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple
and the altar.
so King Saul having lost his salvation having lost the Spirit
of God and having become a habitation of demons – was attacked
physically with a natural army of philistines that threatened
to overthrow the kingdom – so much so that king Saul feared.
you that the day is coming when the philistines will come for
the unsaved church whom God’s spirit has departed from and has
become a habitation of demons – they are coming as the fourth
beast of Daniel – that beast is Muslimism and they shall attack
the holy city that is on seven hills and lay it to waste and
they shall enter into the man made imitation temple that is
the Vatican and the beast shall show himself to be the anti-christ
and the beast shall make war with the remnant and stamp it in
pieces and break it (The Protestant church) and men’s hearts
shall fail with fear as Saul for the Spirit hath departed they
have no dreams neither urim or thumim nor the voice of a prophet
and then they shall call in soothsayers witches and those with
familiar spirits . . .
1 Samuel 28:7-10 Then said
Saul unto his servants, Seek me a woman that hath a familiar
spirit, that I may go to her, and enquire of her. And his servants
said to him, Behold, there is a woman that hath a familiar spirit
at Endor. And
Saul disguised himself, and put on other raiment, and
he went, and two men with him, and they came
to the woman by night: and he said, I pray thee,
divine unto me by the familiar spirit, and bring me him up,
whom I shall name unto thee. 9And the woman
said unto him, Behold, thou knowest what Saul hath done, how
he hath cut off those that have familiar spirits, and the wizards,
out of the land: wherefore then
layest thou a snare for my life, to cause me to die? And Saul sware to her by the LORD, saying, As the LORD liveth, there
shall no punishment happen to thee for this thing.
so the Church like Saul filled with fear, will break the covenant
that he has with God and will do the foulest darkest deeds in
order to try to save themselves from the coming judgment.
1 Samuel 28:11-13 Then said
the woman, Whom shall I bring up unto thee? And
he said, Bring me up Samuel. And when
the woman saw Samuel, she cried with a loud voice: and the woman
spake to Saul, saying, Why hast thou deceived me? for thou art
Saul. And the king said unto her, Be not afraid: for what sawest
thou? And the woman said unto Saul, I saw gods ascending out
of the earth.
the Witch of Endor said to Saul whom shall I bring up unto thee?
And he said, Bring me up Samuel. We shall not go through the
list of sins that was committed this day but rather we will
focus on Christian Necromancy or the insatiable desire of the
fallen and blind – most notably the preachers and teachers who
Christ identified as the blind leading the blind to consult
dead preachers and teachers for their guidance and clarity.
this point in the this scripture it all goes wrong – for a soothsayer
a person who consults the dead has a revelation.
This passage and others was rejected by the people in
the faith movement long before I first believed. They contend
that this woman received her visions and all that transpires
here is from and of the devil, and therefore all that is said
from this point on is more or less the words of Satan to rob,
kill, and destroy, Saul.
we believe corrupt men that deny the very words that are written
in scripture or shall we believe what the testimony that God
has given us on these events?
we have is God intervening, not for Saul’s sake but for us unto
whom the ends of the earth have come. These things were written
that we might know the end of those that would corrupt the gospel
Hebrews 6:4-6 For it is impossible for those
who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift,
and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the
good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they
shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing
they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him
to an open shame.
passage has been rejected by the majority of Fundamentalists,
Pentecostals, and Charismatics, and there fore have they been
rejected by God for not only believing a lie that they might
be damned but then teaching these lies to others that they might
also be damned. Cain was one that came into this deplorable
state, Esau came into
this state, and Saul came into this state. And though each sought
with crying and great tears no place of repentance was found.
most believers’ lives even of the most spiritual among us, God
is the proverbial third wheel. We as believers are two timing
God. Spiritually we are dating two men, the man of our true
love and the emergency back-up man. In the natural when one
is in truly in love, the whole of their affections are on that
one person they love. They mimic them, they pick up their mannerisms,
they find comfort and solace in just being around them. Love
Now what happens with this love relationship
when a third person is involved?
The other person, becomes the third wheel, they become
a tag-a-long, and how do we treat tag-a-longs? There is a certain
level of fellowship with them, there are some good times to
be had, but that friendship or relationship is based on talk.
– Think about what is
being suggested here in regards to how most of us are courting
the devil and the world along and Christ is our back-up date
if all else falls through.
Think about that
the Bible says” The heart of man is deceitful and desperately
wicked and who can know it. What does that statement mean?
It means that few believers know their hearts. Few believers
know the deceit with which they worship and walk with God. We
are two timing God, we give him a lot of talk and lips service
when our true affections are actually on this world and the
things of this world.
Matthew 15:7-9 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy
of you, saying, This people draweth nigh unto me with their
mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is
far from me. But in vain they do worship me, teaching for
doctrines the commandments of men.
know how desperately wicked we are in our prayer and worship. We draw neigh to God with our lips offering prayer and praise while
in our hearts and actions we grope for the natural and tangible
of man and of this world –in so doing our actions continually
testify against us that we love the creation more than the creator.
This is a huge spot and blemish before God.
I cannot make you see this in yourself, only the Holy
I don’t know how
many degree carrying fundamentalist preachers I have heard over
the last few months speak about: “The faithfulness of God.”
These blind guides inform us that we can do whatever we want,
we can fall away, we can sin to our hearts content, we can abuse
the Church, and his people to our hearts content and God like
some love-sick puppy will be waiting there with his tail wagging
like mad, almost unable to control his excitement at any contemptuous
or disinterested glance we send in His direction.
What they are talking about here is the proverbial
barn dance where a women brings a geek to the dance to meet
the approval of her parents and as soon as she arrives he is
relegated to third wheel status as a wall flower, while she
spends the night dancing away with the world and the devil while
occasionally throwing a glance, just enough to hold him so he
will take her home.
This is not salvation. This
is not the Gospel. And
this is not Christ.
I don’t know how
many times I have heard these degree laden Preachers reduce
God’s faithfulness to what he will do for us. The way they tell
it the burden of salvation is somehow on God to prove himself
to us. What they have done is they have made God: the King of
the universe, out to be our personal servant to grant us our
every whim. And that we need not give up anything (of the world
the flesh and the devil) we need only to accept him by our personal
standards as friend and Savior. (The emphasis of this day more
and more is of God our faithful friend and the oft forgotten
Over 130 years ago General Booth of the Salvation
Army prophesied that a day would come where salvation would
be preached without repentance. We have crossed into that day
and it is a fearful thing to know that there are entire churches
and denominations that people have been told that they are saved
without the least semblance of repentance. What has really happened
is that they have blinded their hearers with their conceits,
and smooth words, they perverted the way of righteousness and
corrupted their followers so that in the unlikely event that
they do run into the truth, they have been inoculated against
it so that they will not repent and be converted.
Therefore as their
fathers before them the scribes and the Pharisees God’s judgment
shall severely fall upon them and their disciples of deceit
that would sow deceptive teachings and discord among the brethren.
Woe unto these blind dogs that cannot bark, that cry not out
a warning of the coming judgment to the Church. These shall
receive the greater damnation for great is the blood on their
hands, the blood of those that would be children of light but
whom they made after their own corrupt image and likeness as
children of darkness.
1 Samuel 28:14-20 And he (Saul)
said unto her, What form is he of? And she said, An old man
cometh up; and he is covered with a mantle. And Saul perceived
that it was Samuel, and he stooped with his face to the ground,
and bowed himself. And Samuel said to Saul, Why hast thou disquieted
me, to bring me up? And Saul answered, I am sore distressed;
for the Philistines make war against me, and God is departed
from me, and answereth me no more, neither by prophets, nor
by dreams: therefore I have called thee, that thou mayest make
known unto me what I shall do. Then said Samuel, Wherefore then
dost thou ask of me, seeing the LORD is departed from thee,
and is become thine enemy? And the LORD hath done to him (You),
as he spake by me: for the LORD hath rent the kingdom out of
thine hand, and given it to thy neighbour, even to David: Because
thou obeyedst not the voice of the LORD, nor executedst his
fierce wrath upon Amalek, therefore hath the LORD done this
thing unto thee this day. Moreover the LORD will also deliver
Israel with thee into the hand of the Philistines: and to morrow
shalt thou and thy sons be with me: the LORD also shall deliver
the host of Israel into the hand of the Philistines. Then Saul
fell straightway all along on the earth, and was sore afraid,
because of the words of Samuel: and there was no strength in
him; for he had eaten no bread all the day, nor all the night.
says: “And Samuel said unto Saul.” The bible does not say “A
spirit pretending to be Samuel said unto Saul.
Saul answered, I am sore distressed; for the Philistines make
war against me, and God is departed from me, and answereth me
no more, neither by prophets, nor by dreams: therefore I have
called thee, that thou mayest make known unto me what I shall
said Samuel, Wherefore then dost thou ask of me, seeing the LORD is departed from thee, and is become thine enemy? And the LORD hath done to him
(You), as he spake by me: for the LORD hath rent the kingdom
out of thine hand, and given it to thy neighbour, even to David:
Because thou obeyedst not the voice of the LORD, nor executedst
his fierce wrath upon Amalek, therefore hath the LORD done this
thing unto thee this day. Moreover the LORD will also deliver
Israel with thee into the hand of the Philistines: and to morrow
shalt thou and thy sons be with me: the LORD also shall deliver
the host of Israel into the hand of the Philistines.
that has completely escaped the Church that when the Lord departed
from the entitiy called the “Church” some 1800 years ago they
became for all time enemies with God.
This is why revival has come without the camp. This is
why God keeps moving on with a new people – but when the revival
fires fade the church always brings in their professional Levites
and recreates within the new group the same thing that drove
God to leave the last group.
Samuel says to the Saul (The church) that because of
disobedience the kingdom is rent from thee and given
to another. And that the following day Saul and Jonathan the
beloved friend of David shall be slain.
can well understand the judgment of God on Saul but with Jonathan
it is a little harder to understand. We might well ask if Saul
is the fallen church, than who is Jonathan?
Jonathan is those who were the well wishers of David.
Those who acknowledged God’s gift and calling in David with
their lips, but for the price of the reproach that they would
have had to suffer to join David; to give up their houses, lands
and riches that their souls so loved. And for what? To become
a wanderer, or not reputation with no guaranteed rewards in
this life that are in search of a kingdom not made with hands?
No indeed they could not find it in themselves to do so came
to the corrupt belief that they could have it both ways as is
preached in our day that they could be a true follower
a true disciple of David while they still lived in careless
ease in Zion
Revelation Jesus said of the Laodiceans that He would vomit
them out of his mouth. And so Jonathan partook of the judgments
of Saul for Jonathan by living with Saul and partaking of this
wealth was acting as an enabler. If those of Saul’s house would
have all left and Joined David Saul would have had nothing to
rule. His claims would have faded. Just as the Klesia and all
these ministries if people would cease from enabling these corrupt
ministries their TV Radio and evangelistic campaigns would quickly
fold but because millions of Christians God to their meetings
and given them tithes and offerings, in other words they are
acting as their enablers – like Jonathan they shall be made
also to partake of Saul’s sins.
answer is not that we are to flee these corrupt Churches at
least not at this time. The answer in the book of Revelation.
The overcomers that are named are all within their corrupt churches
being lights bit not being partakers of these churches corrupt
doctrines and sins, and not being their enablers. No where in
Revelation does it say to the overcomers that have fled Ephesus,
to those who have fled Smyrna or Laodicea. No mater how bad
the doctrine and teachings the overcomers are to be lights.
For if they leave as has been done in 10,000 church splits who
shall the klesia receive their light from?