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Psalm 77 and Madam Guyon

Psalm 77 is probably the linchpin in scripture of all that these disciples of Madam Guyon believe they are spiritually doing and achieving.

Psalm 77:1-6  1 I cried unto God with my voice, even unto God with my voice; and he gave ear unto me. 2 In the day of my trouble I sought the Lord: my sore ran in the night, and ceased not: my soul refused to be comforted. 3 I remembered God, and was troubled: I complained, and my spirit was overwhelmed. Selah. 4 Thou holdest mine eyes waking: I am so troubled that I cannot speak. 6 I call to remembrance my song in the night: I commune with mine own heart: and my spirit made diligent search.
Like David the people that seek this experience are generally a people in great anguish, they are filled with loneliness, despair, the world around them is in a shambles – but unlike David these people do not really know the Lord, they have never been hardwired into him and have never had a “Life Changing” salvation experience to begin with. David however knew the Lord intimately and was also a Prophet of God.  so in verse six when David speak of calling into remembrance my song in the night, and saying in this lull or void he will commune with his own heart and with his spirit he will make a diligent search – David is not speaking of an astral projection of his soul or spirit searching and reaching out to touch God. And Neither is David seeking or reaching deep within to commune with a God that is within. And this will be borne out in David’s own words in this Psalm.

Psalm 77:7-9  7 Will the Lord cast off forever? and will he be favourable no more? 8 Is his mercy clean gone for ever? doth his promise fail for evermore? 9 Hath God forgotten to be gracious? hath he in anger shut up his tender mercies? Selah.

Here we have David feeling cut off and this deep separation between him and God

10 And I said, This is my infirmity: but I will remember the years of the right hand of the most High. (The first difference between what David is speaking of and what the disciples of Madam Guyon are doing is David is NOT empting his mind, soul, or spirit to enter into a trance-like emptiness – David in counter distinction to this says that he WILL (of his own volition) REMEMBER (call up mental remembrances) the years where he saw the right hand of the Lord raised in his behalf – This remembering and recalling of what God had wrought in his behalf is part of what David defines as I commune with mine own heart: and my spirit made diligent search”) 11 I will remember the works of the LORD: surely I will remember thy wonders of old. ( The second difference David cites is a REMEMBRANCE of what he was told of the power and workings of God) 12 I will meditate also of all thy work, and talk of thy doings.(The third major difference of David’s communing with mine own heart: and my spirit making a diligent search is that he defines that searching of his spirit for God  as including meditating upon all the works of God and that is David speaking of meditating upon the Law of the Lord as he repeats elsewhere dozens of times – and why is he meditating upon the word of Old Covenant? David is seeking God to reveal to him his sin the cause of this separation  -- David is seeking cleansing and sanctification and note also that part of this communing with mine own heart and my spirit making a diligent search is also David speaking these things to the brethren – All of what David is speaking of here is shunned by the disciples of Madam Guyon as being part of the much hated and maligned Old Testament Mentality).

13 Thy way, O God, is in the sanctuary: (David then speaks of the outward tabernacle of God he had erected with its outward altar of repentance that contained also contained an outward the Holy of holies.)  Who is so great a God as our God?

14 Thou art the God that doest (outward) wonders: thou hast (outwardly and openly) declared thy strength among the people. 15 Thou hast with thine arm (outwardly and physically) redeemed thy people, the sons of Jacob and Joseph. Selah. 16 The waters saw thee, O God, the waters saw thee; they were afraid: the depths also were troubled. 17 The clouds poured out water: the skies sent out a sound: thine arrows also went abroad. 18 The voice of thy thunder was in the heaven (And David most importantly to this discussion of his communing with mine own heart: and my spirit making a diligent search – that the God whom he “Inwardly” is not in him, but is outward. And here David now refers now to the place of God’s dwelling as “in heaven” not within the breast of David the man of God and the Prophet of God.) the lightnings lightened the world: the earth trembled and shook. 19 Thy way is in the sea, and thy path in the great waters, and thy footsteps are not known. 20 Thou leddest thy people like a flock by the hand of Moses and Aaron. (The final verse of this psalm is so old covenant and show so conclusively that David was reading and meditating upon the book of Exodus. And David’s testimony is that God revealed himself to David in many times and in many ways as David sought the Lord with his heart and diligently sought after the Lord in this way.) I will select David’s walk and David’s revelations over Madam Guyon’s hands down. Her testimony includes no conversion, and according to her own words part of this process she went through for almost a decade was her having dreams, visions, and the like with demons speaking to her, and containing   very dark and perverted things that tormented her body soul and spirit.  This woman was a soothsayer who communed with spirits, and not unlike Simon Magnus was reputed to have done and was rejected and cast out of the Church by the Apostles themselves. They difference between her and Simon Magnus was that she appeared in an age of utter corruption (where there were no longer Apostles and Prophets) and she appeared within the Roman Catholic Church not in India or China or on her own in a farm field and the fact that she had been a Catholic Nun and advised by priests has been used by men to vindicate all that she testified of.  And now in this modern era men have now sought to shroud her corrupt and perverted words with scriptures, and have thusly presented her to the brethren making her to appear as an angel of light  -- illuminating the way to salvation.  But this way of hers is no way at all. It is but just another path for people to waste their lives blindly plodding down, the end of which leads nowhere, which as all of the other hundreds if not thousands of false Gospel’s true design and purpose.