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This article was written by a Messianic Jew – The man has a mastery of Talmudic literature and he has some rather amazing things to say in this article about Christ and His coming according to bible prophecy while using the Talmud, the Mishnah, and other ancient Jewish writings.

While there is an undeniable value to this man’s knowledge of the Talmud to be able to preach to and convert Talmudized Jews, --- There are serious flaws in what this brother in the Lord is conveying concerning these corrupt writings.  He comes close and beats around the bush, but never comes out and says so.

Recently the Lord spoke in a most profound way in “The Talmudization of Israel and the Church” that the Mishnah and the Talmud are the bane and curse of all of Israel, the Church, and the world.  May God help us, and may God deliver Israel and the Church from their blindness.    



By Jacob Prasch
Moriel ministries

What The Rabbinic Literature States Regarding Yeshua

There is a place in the Rabbinic writings (The Talmud) called Yoma 39 b, where the rabbis taught that in the forty years prior to the destruction of the Temple, the following happened: on Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement, they would hang a scarlet cord – probably associated in some way with Isaiah 1:18 – before the Holy of Holies when the High Priest entered to make the sacrifice.  They believed that this scarlet cord would turn white if the sin of the people was forgiven; if they were not forgiven, the cord would remain red.  Daniel chapter nine, as we will see, said that the Messiah had to come and die before the second Temple was destroyed; Jesus echoed this in the Olivet Discourse (Matt. 24, Luke 21).  The Rabbis taught, "During the last forty years before the destruction of the Temple – which happened circa 70 A.D., the scarlet thread did not become white, nor did the Western lamp in the Temple shine; and the doors of the Holy of Holies would fling themselves open of their own accord.  For the forty years before the destruction of the Temple, the scarlet thread never turned white, but remained red."  The second Temple was destroyed in 70 A.D.; forty years before 70 A.D. would have been circa 30 A.D./ C.E.   In other words, from the time of Jesus until the destruction of the Temple, according to Judaism, the people's sin was never forgiven.  They are trying to justify themselves by works, but Isaiah 64:6 tells us that our righteous deeds are as filthy rags – the literal Hebrew term for 'filthy rags' in this passage is actually a comparison to a blood soiled menstrual cloth – Scripture uses very coarse language to describe human righteousness and religion.  Messiahs righteousness is not human, it is a divine righteousness imputed through faith in The Jewish Messiah Yeshua.
"During the last forty years before the destruction of the Temple, the lot for the Lord did not come up in the right hand, nor did the crimson-colored strap become white; nor did the Western-most light shine, and the doors to the Hekal, the Temple, would open by themselves, until
Rabbi Johanan ben Zakkai rebuked them, saying, 'Hekal, Hekal, why wilt thou be the alarmer thyself?  I know about thee, that thou wilt be destroyed, for Zachariah Ben Ido has already prophesied concerning thee, "Open thy doors, O Lebanon, that the fire may devour the cedars."'"  What this is saying is that Rabbi Johanan ben Zakkai is supposed to have asked the doors why they were predicting their own destruction. 

In the Menahot, it says: "By the morning, the oil in the lamps had burnt out.  The priests came in and cleaned out the lamps, removing the old wicks and putting in new wicks, and pouring oil into them, ready for the kindling in the evening.  The Western lamp, however, although it had no more oil than the other lamps, miraculously continued to burn the entire day long, so that when the lamps were to be kindled in the evening, they were kindled from this one.  The western lamp itself was then extinguished, cleaned out, a fresh wick put in, oil poured in, and then relit.  Thus the lamp provided the fire for lighting the other lamps, and yet was the last to be cleaned out.  This miracle has testified to the Divine Presence in Israel." 

According to these entries, during the forty years prior to the destruction of the second Temple in 70 A.D., the Western lamp which was the lamp that lit the other lamps – in other words, Jesus, the true Light of the world – went out, which is an indication that the shekinah cloud had left.  Also, the doors to the Holy of Holies would fling themselves open; furthermore, the scarlet thread that was tied to the door of the Temple never became white, indicating that the sins of Israel were not forgiven.  This took place from the time of the crucifixion of Jesus to the time of the destruction of the Temple; Yoma 39 b.  

In order to help facilitate understanding of what happened in the Jewish religion, I'm going to tell you a Tale of Two Rabbis:  Once upon a time, there was a very famous rabbi whose name was Rabbi Hillel.  There were two main kinds of Pharisee: one was the School of Hillel – this rabbi – and the other was the School of Shammai; academies where rabbis were educated.  They had certain differences in their emphasis, but they were the two main schools of Pharisaic thought.  The School of Hillel had a number of very famous graduates – Hillel was the grandfather of another very famous rabbi who was his successor, Rabbi Gamaliel.  Rabbi Gamaliel is mentioned in the Talmud, which says of him that when he died righteousness perished from the earth.  The New Testament tells us in Acts 5 that Gamaliel said that if Jesus was not the Messiah, Christianity would disappear; and if it did not disappear, the Jews who opposed it would be working against God.  Rabbi Gamaliel from the School of Hillel was associated with something called the Midot  of Hillel, which St. Paul used in his teaching methods.  Gamaliel had a number of famous students, one of whom was Onkleos, who did a famous translation of the Targum into Aramaic.  He also had two other very famous students, one or the other of whom every Jew who came after them would follow, causing the Jewish religion to have a schism.  The first of these students was Rabbi Johanan ben Zakkai, whom I quoted earlier.  When the Temple was destroyed, Rabbi Johanan ben Zakkai said (in paraphrase), "We have a big problem: we cannot practice the Jewish faith that Moses gave any more."  To this day, on every Orthodox Jewish synagogue you will find the term Ichabod; 'the glory has departed, the Shekinah has gone'.  They know very well that without a Temple they cannot practice the faith of their fathers.  On the Passover, the Pesach, instead of taking the Passover seder with lamb, they take it with chicken because they have no priesthood and no Temple. 

Rabbi Johanan ben Zakkai had a council at Javneh, near modern  Tel Aviv, (Rabbi Johanan Bio and background of his Tamludic school at Javneh: Rabbi Johanan lived during the destruction of Jerusalem and when he knew the city was to be destroyed He with his disciples from his Rabbinical School faked his own death (The article Implied after his escape he would see the emperor and obtain their pardon / rescue) So, after lying that he was gravely sick, lying about his death, holding a fake funeral and several days of fake mourning he was carried out of the city by 12 of his most trusted disciples in a locked coffin to be buried. He then let all of his most loyal disciples return to Jerusalem to be slaughtered. -- His supposed claim to fame is he appeared before Vespasian before Jerusalem was destroyed, and preformed a minor miracle of announcing Vespasian was the Emperor of Rome. (Supposedly) minutes later a messenger arrived from Rome to tell Vespasian Caesar was dead and he was the new Emperor. So This perverse Rabbi was granted a single wish -- Rabbi Johanan did not plead for the Jews in Jerusalem lives -- as Moses did, nor Rabbi Johanan ask for his disciples lpardon that had carried him in a coffin out of the city so he supposedly would plead for their salvation. Instead this corrupt and self-seeking Rabbi asked for the new emperor to build for him a Talmudic School in Javneh. a little town not far from Jerusalem. This school with this betrayer of Israel, Jerusalem, and all his disciples as its head master is joyously credited by modern Talmudic Jews as the place Talmudic Judaism was saved.) at this council meeting Rabbi Johanan and other leading rabbis decided the following: instead of the Levites and priests, the rabbis would be the new spiritual authorities, ergo the new leaders of Israel. (These Rabbis were the Pharisees of whom Christ declared they had usurped the seat of Moses in Josephus writings we find that this usurping occurred after Alexander The Great’s death – when the Pharisees successfully interceded to Alexander’s wife who granted their order of Rabbi’s spiritual authority over Judaism. So in the vacuum of Levites without an alter and Priests without a temple in an act of utter arrogance Rabbi Johanan overthrew the entire priesthood and the Levites. And these have not relinquished their grip over Judaism for the last 1900+ years. And they rewrote the Mishnah into what was later called the Babylonian Talmud in order to codify their hold over all of Israel. Rabbi Johanan is credited as the father of the Talmud, and the father of Talmudic schools.)  Also, instead of the Temple being central, the synagogues would become central (synagogues having begun developing after the Babylonian Captivity).  Thus another religion began to evolve from that point, based in (the new) tradition(s of the Talmud in place of the perversion and corruption of the Mishnah that Christ and the Apostles had battled so hard against.)

There was a classmate of Rabbi Johanan ben Zakkai, whose name was Rabbi Shaul of Tarsus (This makes my hair stand on end.) – better known to some as St. Paul the Apostle. (The title of “Saint” also makes my hair stand on end –this man seems to know no Greek nor of the Greek Septuagint.)  He was likewise a disciple of Gamaliel; but he said that the Law was fulfilled by the Messiah.  Jesus paid the price for our sins, and thus the curse of the Law and the consequences for breaking it were laid on Him.  Every Jew is under one law or another; think of an unsaved Jewish person as a kind of backslider – he is in a covenant relationship with God.  He may not keep that covenant, he may be an atheist – but he is still under the curse of the Law. (We might add here that for disobedience the whole of the Church is also under the curse of the Law also – and as discussed elsewhere this is why judgment is coming upon the whole of Isal and the Church in the rise of Islam and the person of the Antichrist.)  If you want to know what happened to the Jews, read Leviticus 26 and Deuteronomy 28 – their entire history is therein foretold.  The Jews are under a national curse because they reject Jesus; they are under the curse of the Law. (And we can find the whole of Church history in these same passages.) 

By the time the Temple was destroyed, Daniel's prediction that the Messiah would come and die beforehand was fulfilled.  Every Jew then had one of two choices: he either accepted Jesus as Messiah, or he began to practice a Judaism that was not Scriptural.  The entire future of the Jewish faith to this day is based on these two classmates: Rabbi Johanan ben Zakkai and Rabbi Shaul of Tarsus. (While it is true that Rabbi Johanan is the founder of modern Judaism – Paul the Apostle declares repeatedly that he is not the founder or foundation of the Modern Church but Christ and his teachings are – And Paul declares that he speaks is founded on Scripture -- not the Mishnah or the Talmud that was written later. 

At the end of his life, the Talmud tells us, Rabbi Johanan ben Zakkai was weeping.  His disciples came to him and said, "O Mighty Hammer, why are you weeping?  Why is your soul in distress?"  And Rabbi Jochanan ben Zakkai said, "I am about to meet Ha Shem – God – blessed be His name, and before me are two roads: one leading to Paradise (Heaven) and the other leading to Gehenna (Hell); and I do not know to which road He will sentence me."  The founder of Rabbinic Judaism admitted that he had absolutely no assurance of salvation.  He said that he did not know whether God would sentence him to Hell for what he did; at the end of his life he was terrified to die.  It is the same for all the Jews who follow him. 

(Full version) Talmud Berakoth Folio 28a When Rabban Johanan ben Zakkai fell ill, his disciples went in to visit him. When he saw them he began to weep. His disciples said to him: Lamp of Israel, pillar of the right hand, mighty hammer! Wherefore weepest thou? He replied: If I were being taken today before a human king who is here today and tomorrow in the grave, whose anger if he is angry with me does not last forever, who if he imprisons me does not imprison me forever and who if he puts me to death does not put me to everlasting death, and whom I can persuade with words and bribe with money, (Here we have one of the "greatest" of rabbi's and on his death bed he is faced with his perverseness, the blood on his hands of the Inhabitants of Jerusalem and his former disciples, his arrogance, and his lies. -- He fears he will go to hell, He fears God's eternal wrath, he fears he will be bound in eternal chains, and he fears he will eternally burn in the fires of hell. He knows he can not lie and persuade God to alter his judgment, and he knows he can not bribe God with his material wealth for his soul. And so he cried like Esau - who found no place of repentance --only the fierce indignation and judgment of God.) Even so I would weep. Now that I am being taken before the supreme King of Kings, the Holy One, blessed be He, who lives and endures for ever and ever, whose anger, if He is angry with me, is an everlasting anger, who if He imprisons me imprisons me for ever, who if He puts me to death puts me to death for ever, and whom I cannot persuade with words or bribe with money — nay more, when there are two ways before me, one leading to Paradise and the other to Gehinnom, (Hell) and I do not know by which I shall be taken, shall I not weep? (In death he lies to his disciples so that his school and his memory may live on.) They said to him: Master, bless us. He said to them: May it be [God's] will that the fear of heaven shall be upon you like the fear of flesh and blood (Fellow disciples and Rabbi's). (The following has been modified from several translations) His disciples were astonished, He said to them: He who would commit a transgression, first looks round to discover whether any man sees him, hoping no man will see him. So take ye heed, (Fear God) for God's all-seeing eye sees what you would hide for the fear of men, He sees even the sinful thoughts in your heart.'

However, then there is Rabbi Shaul of Tarsus, who said at the end of his life, "Trouble me no further, for on my body I bear the marks of Christ, and I know there is laid up for me a crown of glory and of righteousness." (This is a real loose constructed quote mismatching several passage Paul actually feared the Lord – and talked about the possibility he could have run and then been disqualified.)  He had the assurance of his salvation, and so does every Jew who follows him. (Note** Another website reported that this man believers in eternal security.)

That is what happened in the Jewish faith, and what is going on to this very day. 

As early as the Talmudic era, the sages knew that the Messiah should have come already.  They cried, "All the predestined dates for the Redemption have passed, and the matter now depends only on repentance and good deeds." – Sanhedrin 97b.  They were faced with major prophecies that were well past their dates for fulfillment; Jesus was the only person who claimed to be the Messiah who could actually in His time prove Davidic descent.  This is not only recorded in the New Testament, but also in Sanhedrin 43a: "With Yeshua (Jesus), it was different: He was connected with the government.  This is an ambiguous phrase, which has actually misled some people to believe that it actually refers to royal lineage."  God spent 1000 years promising Abraham and David that the Messiah would descend from them; therefore, when He allowed all of the genealogies to be destroyed with the second Temple, it was obvious that the Messiah had to have come.  So we read, "And the Sanhedrin wept: 'Oy vevoy, woe to us!  For the Temple is destroyed, and the Messiah has not come.'"  We will come back to this one. 

Genesis 49:10: "The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor the ruler's staff from between his feet until Shiloh comes; and to Him shall be the obedience of the people."  Shiloh is one of the places in which the Ark of the Covenant dwelt, but it became an appellative for the Messiah in Judaism.  Every tribe of Israel had its own tribal staff, a scepter, with the tribe's name inscribed upon it.  This represented judicial power.  The removal of the scepter, therefore, occurred when Herod the Great – a non-Jew – became king and the Sanhedrin had its power limited; (Historically this occurred hundreds of years earlier when Alexander the Great came into Jerusalem and the Priests and Levites and the Sanhedrin came out and prostrated themselves before Alexander and gave him the rulership over Jerusalem – This event is recorded by Josephus, Later when the Romans came they had a series of rulers that they set over Jerusalem all recorded by Josephus. And at the trial of Christ the Pharisees, Priests and Sanhedrin all confessed that they had no king except the Emperor.)  These things both happened during Jesus' lifetime.  The name 'Shiloh' is the name of the Messiah, according to the Talmud, Sanhedrin 98b.    

According to the prophecy of Genesis 49:10, the Messiah had to have come prior to the removal of the scepter from Judah.  Therefore, either the Messiah has already been and gone or God lied.  God cannot lie; so whoever the Messiah was, according to the Talmud He had to have already come at that point.  Again, the Talmud mentions how 40 years before the destruction of the Temple the Sanhedrin was moved from the Hall of the hewn stones to a place outside; you may read this in Sanhedrin 41a and in the Avodat Zerah 8b.  Whoever The Messiah is, He had to come and die prior to 70AD/CE.

After five centuries of accumulated oral teaching was passed down, Rabbi Yehudah ha Nassi – meaning 'Judah the President' – and his disciples wrote down selected material from the oral law, calling it the 'Mishnah'; this was not done until 230 A.D. (A version of the Mishnah was in existence 100-200 years before Christ was born and this version is what Christ railed against in the Gospels) The Talmud (written after the Mishnah and containing the Mishnah in it was begun by Rabbi Johanan in his Jayneh school around 70AD and completed around 500 AD), in other words, was not even written down at all until 230 A.D.  What the rabbis teach is this: the Talmud (The so called “oral traditions” of the Torah – this is something wholly different that the five books of Moses which is called the Torah.) – what they call the Torah b'pei was given to Moses on Mount Sinai, although he did not write it down.  However, in Joshua 8:35, among other places, we read this: "There was not a word of all that the Lord had commanded Moses which Joshua did not read before the people of Israel.So the Torah says that Moses wrote it all down.  (On this point the author seems to argue that the Oral traditions were completely made up –but he does not ever come out and say that. And in other places he speaks of it with great glowing terms as if it is a true authority.)

Where the writer should be arguing steadfastly that the Talmud is utterly false and the fruit of the knowledge of Good and evil and those who partake and teach from this pollute themselves and their hearers – he does not.

The so-called Oral Traditions, the Mishnah, the Jerusalem Talmud and the Babylonian Talmud are all addressed by the Apostles in the passages below as Fables, profane fables, old wives fables, Jewish fables, and cunningly devised fables.  

1 Timothy 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.


1 Timothy 4:7 But refuse profane and old wives' fables, and exercise thyself rather unto godliness.


2 Timothy 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.


Titus 1:14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.


2 Peter 1:16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.

But the rabbis deny this (and instead claim that they received from Moses secret ) oral law(s or traditions that were) given without (ever) being written down (and for over 1000 years these oral traditions somehow remained uncorrupted and the sages and rabbis further claim these oral traditions remained purer than the written Law of Moses and the Prophets.).  They go so far as to say that the opinion of one rabbi is more important than the opinions of a thousand prophets, (The Talmud declares the words of the Rabbi’s over scripture and even has a Rabbi arguing with God over the Talmud and God admitting defeat.) because the prophets were only messengers and secretaries, while the rabbis had (the power) to interpret the messages and divulge their meaning. (This same authority to corrupt the word of God and subvert through interpretation has been routinely done by Church Scholars, pastors, teachers and evangelists. Both Catholicism and Protestantism have drawn much of their teaching and doctrine from the Talmud. As has feminism, Victorianism, secular humanism, western Judeo-Christian society and Islam. These are all children of the Talmud.) 

 Each generation continued to raise new questions, so there were experts, one of whom was Rabbi Yohochanan, of the same college as Tiberias.  He compiled these new rabbinic decisions in about 330 A.D.  When this was done, he called it the Gemmarra, taken from the Hebrew word that means 'to finish', or 'completion'. (With every scripture that is altered – the warp that is created by these supposed scholars created at least a half a dozen new ripples that need to be defined and quantified –The growth of error and deception is exponential in nature. This explains the Mishnah a single book (I’m just making up numbers) to the Jerusalem Talmud a twelve volume set, to the Babylonian Talmud a one-hundred and thirty book set)

(We skipped a few paragraphs here tracing more modern Talmudic and Jewish occult writings)

In any event, what does God say about all this?  Let us look: "Because this people draws near to Me with their words and honors Me with lip service, but they remove their hearts far from Me, and their reverence for Me consists of tradition learned by rote." – Isaiah 29:13.  All of the prophets prophecied only about the Messiah; the entire Old Testament is about the Messiah, according to the Talmud in Sanhedrin 99a, "The world was not created but only for the Messiah" – Sanhedrin 98b.  In John chapter one, it says that the world was created through Jesus and by Him. (By this association the author is now implying that the Apostle John is quoting from the Talmud) Rabbi Yosef said that the Messiah would come when this gate (Rome) shall fall and be built again, and the land Israel would be overrun by enemies, in Sanhedrin 96-99.  The stone cut without hands in Daniel 2:44-45 is the Messiah, according to the Pirque Eliezar  chapter 11. 

There was a famous rabbi named Rabbi Leopold Cohen, who was greatly troubled by Daniel 9, which said that the Messiah had to come and die before the destruction of the second Temple.  He wanted to find out what this meant; so he read in the Talmud that the world would last for 6,000 years, 'for a thousand years is like yesterday in Your sight when it passes by'; they link this, according to Rabbi Katina , with Psalm 90:4.  From this they derive that the world would be 2000 years in a state of chaos, 2000 years under the Law of Moses, and 2000 years under the Messiah, when the Shabbat – the Millennium – will be 1000 years of peace.  Then will come the war of Gog and Magog, and the Messiah will renew the world after 7000 years, according to Sanhedrin 96b and 99a, and Yalkut  volume II p. 129d. – this is exactly what the book of Revelation teaches. (Again while perhaps unintentional this almost sounds like the author is suggesting the book of Revelation is derived in part from the Talmud)  The Messiah will arrive to destroy the nations and to rule the earth for a thousand years of peace when people are conducting themselves in the following manner: Those who fear sin will be abhorred, truth shall fail, children will rebel against their parents, general lawlessness will abound, Sadducaicism would universally prevail (the Sadducees denied the Resurrection, like the Bishop of Durham) – in other words, when people who claim to be believers in God deny the Resurrection on a popular level: When Anglican Arch Bishop of York David Jenkins denied the Resurrection of Jesus, two thirds of the Anglican bishops defended him; but the ancient Rabbis long before David Jenkins said that Sadducaicism would prevail universally – the study of God's Law would decrease, there would be a general increase in universal poverty and despair, apostasy would increase, and there would be a growing disregard for Scripture.  This comes from Sanhedrin 96b, 99a – or, if you wish, read Paul's epistle to Timothy. (And this as well.)

Rabbi Cohen had a big problem when he went to the Talmud and saw this.  He realized that the Messiah had to have come around 32 or 33 A.D.  The Talmud said two things in this regard: one was as stated above, and the other was that there is a curse on anybody who reads Daniel 9.  He asked his instructors why, and looked into the Talmud, and found that it said the reason for the curse was that the time of the Messiah's coming was foretold in Daniel 9.  He could not believe that God would put something in His Word and not want people to understand what it meant; therefore, Rabbi Leopold Cohen became a Baptist minister. 

I mention this in passing, though it is a subject that could be treated at much greater depth: in the Talmud it is noted that the word dor in Hebrew, meaning 'generations', is spelled correctly before Adam fell in Genesis 2:4, but afterward the Hebrew letter vov – which is also a '6', since in Hebrew the letters also stand for numbers – is missing, because Adam lost six things. (This is teaching fables)   The letter vov is then replaced in Ruth 4:18, (This is teaching fables) because  she was the grandmother of King David, whose son would be the Messiah.  The Messiah would restore the six things lost by Adam. (This is teaching fables) Bresheit Rabbah 12, p. 24b (of the Warsaw Edition). 

To this day, the Rabbis read the Book of Ruth at Pentecost, the birthday of the Church.  Ruth is the story of a Jewish man who takes a Gentile bride, and from their union the lineage of David begins – from which the Messiah would ultimately come.  Do you see how they knew?  They knew that somehow the Messiah would, through this Gentile woman, restore what Adam had lost. 

Jews will go to all kinds of lengths to tell you that Zechariah 12:10-12 does not necessarily refer to the Messiah.  Zechariah 12:10-12 says "And they will look upon Him whom they have pierced, and mourn for Him as one mourns for an only son"; they will try to deny that this must mean they will look on the Messiah whom they had pierced.  However, in Sukkah 52a it says directly: "They will look upon Me – the Messiah – whom they have pierced".  The Talmud confirms rather than denies that this is speaking about the Messiah – whom they had pierced. 

The Messiah will arrive with the clouds of Heaven, according to Daniel 7:13, but humble and mounted on a donkey according to Zechariah 9:9.  One Talmudist proposes that if Israel deserves it, the Messiah will come with the clouds of Heaven, but if Israel is not deserving, He will come poor and riding on an ass.  (Sanhedrin 96b – 99a.)  To this day, this is how the Rabbis will get around it: they will claim that the Messiah did come in the days of Jesus, but Israel was not worthy and therefore he did not reveal himself.  Thus this becomes the big catch-all, by which they are able to explain anything away. 

In Deuteronomy 18 Scripture says that if you predict something that fails to happen in the name of the Lord, you are a false prophet.  I show that to the Jehovah's Witnesses right before showing them false prophecies made in their own literature.  The same with the Vineyard people and John Wimber's false prophecies; it cannot be denied, so they find they cannot handle it.  Rabbi Menahem Schnerson , the last Lubavitch rebbe, said that Messiah was going to come at Rosh ha Shanah  (September) of 1991.  The day after this deadline, I called up the Chabad Center in London and asked to speak to someone who spoke Hebrew.  When he came on the line, I asked in Hebrew, "Well?" – he knew what I meant.  Then I went down to Stamford Hill with some of my friends from CMJ who have a Messianic testimony, bringing our tracts.  We confronted the Jews there with the fact that Moshe Rabbenu says that if people predict things in the name of Ha Shem that don't happen, they are false prophets who must be taken out and stoned; we then asked them if they keep the Torah.  The point of this was to show them that if they remain under the Law, they must take their Rabbi Schnerson out and stone him as a false prophet; their only other choice is to accept Yeshua as their Messiah who fulfilled the Law.  They didn't like that much. 

I love the Talmud – it illustrates so clearly the old joke, "If you have two Jews, you have three opinions".  Forget three opinions – if you have two Jews, you have thirty-three opinions!  Israel would have no more Messiah because he had come in the days of King Hezekiah, according to Rabbi Hillel  – not the original Hillel, but another one.  (Sanhedrin 96b, 99a.)  In the same passage, Sanhedrin 96b – 99a, his grandson, Rabbi Yosef, said "May God forgive my grandfather, Rabbi Hillel." 

Some Talmudists, however, thought that the Messiah would come on two separate occasions, which would account for the two conflicting descriptions of his arrival – again, Moshiach ben Yosef and Moshiach ben David.  It is stated that the two dates given in Daniel 12:11,12 were to date the two arrivals at 45-year intervals.  (The Midrash on Ruth 2:14, p. 43b of the Warsaw Edition; also The Lost Talmud on Daniel 9, 24-27.)  The ancient Talmudists knew a lot of things. 

One thing that will inevitably happen to you when you talk to Jewish people is, again, that they will tell you Zechariah 12:10-12 is not about the Messiah.  An answer to give them is that Sukkah  52a  says it is.  They will also try to tell you that Isaiah 52 and 53 are not about the Messiah.  I showed those very passages to a Jewish girl on a kibbutz in Israel once, and she immediately said, "This is about Jesus."  No one had to tell her anything or manipulate her thinking – she simply used common sense.  Her name was Sally Brown, and I hope she gets saved.  Anyway, the Talmudists knew that Isaiah was predicting the Messiah's appearance in Isaiah 52:14: "His – the Messiah's – appearance was marred more than that of any man, and His form more than the sons of men" Sanhedrin 97b, Yalkut volume II p. 53c and also Shemoth R, 15-19.  The Talmud repeatedly quotes Isaiah 53 as a prediction of the Messiah's appearance on earth. 

There are two main Targums in Judaism: the Targum Onkleos which I mentioned earlier, and  Targum Jonathon.  After the Babylonian Captivity, most Jews knew Aramaic rather than Hebrew, so they translated the Scriptures into Aramaic.  However, these were not simply translations, but also interpretations.  It says: "Who has believed our report, and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?  For He grew up before Him like a tender root out of dry ground; He had no stately form or majesty that we should look on Him, nor appearance that we should be attracted to Him.  The Messiah was despised and forsaken of men, a man of sorrows acquainted with grief" – it goes on and on and on, directly pointing to the Messiah in these passages.  "Each of us has turned to his own way, but the Lord has caused the iniquity of us all to fall upon the Messiah"; "Although He had done no violence, nor was any deceit in His mouth, the LORD was pleased to crush Him, putting Him to grief if He would render Himself as a corban – a guilt offering – He would see His offspring, He would prolong His days, and the good pleasure of the LORD will prosper in His hand, and as a result of the anguish of His soul, He will see it and be satisfied.  By His knowledge the Righteous One, My Servant, will justify many and will bear their iniquities" and so on.  "He Himself bore the sin of many, and interceded for the transgressors" – Sanhedrin 98b, also the Midrash on Samuel, the Lemburg (SP?) Edition, p. 45a, and the Targum of the Kingdom of the Messiah.  They knew very well that this was about the Messiah; the Targum Jonathon says so specifically. 

Jewish people will often accuse Christians of twisting Scriptures to make them about Jesus when they actually are not about Him; what most Rabbis will say is that these passages are about Israel and the vicarious suffering of Israel.  There are a number of problems with that: one is that the same Isaiah repeatedly castigates Israel for its sin, whereas he describes this Suffering Servant as having no sin.  Therefore their idea is simply incompatible with the context.  There are four Servant Songs in Isaiah, and the fourth one, found in Isaiah 52-53, is different from the others.  In one sense, the rabbis are right: much the same as the Church is the Body of Christ, Jesus is the embodiment of Israel.  For example, when you see verses that say things like "Israel My glory, Israel My Firstborn", they are midrashically alluding to Jesus.  But only in a very abstract sense are these passages about Israel; their primary meaning, according to the Rabbinic literature, is pointing to the Messiah.  When they tell you this is not about the Messiah, ask them to explain the Targum Jonathan, or the Midrash on Samuel, which say it is. 

Jewish people will also accuse Christians of inventing a New Covenant that does not exist, claiming that the only covenant is the Torah.  Jeremiah 31:31 says that God will make a new covenant, but when you tell them this they will try to tell you that you have misunderstood the text.  At this point, you can point to the Midrash on Psalm 7, p. 5a of the Warsaw Edition: "God will speak through the Messiah to make a new covenant." 

Psalm 2 says, "Thou art My Son; do homage to the Son, lest He become angry and you perish in the way."  The Rabbis say that God has no Son; but they have a big problem.  Here is where I tell you how to drive an Orthodox Rabbi into early retirement in Florida: Psalm 2 is put together with Psalm 110 and II Samuel 16:1, and then connected with the Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53.  These things can be read in the Midrash on II Samuel 16:1, paragraph 19 of the Lemburg Edition, p. 45; also the Midrash on Psalm 7, p. 5a of the Warsaw Edition; and Yalkut (SP?) Volume II p. 90a.  (These things can be obtained at a Yeshiva or a religious Jewish library.) 

It goes on to say, then, when it has connected Psalm 110 with II Samuel 16:1 and Isaiah 53, "Against God and His Messiah: "If I find the Son of the King, I shall lay hold of Him and crucify Him with a cruel death."  The Talmud actually says that the Messiah would be crucified 'Litzlov oto' is exactly what it says, 'crucify'.  This is one thing they cannot answer; it shocks them. 

Once again, in Genesis 49:10 Jacob predicted that the scepter would not depart from Judah nor the ruler's staff from between his feet until Shiloh comes; the Babylonian Talmud states that when this occurred, the sages said 'Woe to us, for the scepter has been taken from Judah, and the Messiah has not appeared!'  Rabbi Ruchman  adds that the members of the Sanhedrin covered their heads with ashes, their bodies with sackcloth, and wept when they heard these words.  The Jerusalem Talmud dates this occasion at a little more than forty years before the destruction of the Temple in 70 A.D.; so they are saying that from around 30 A.D. the Messiah was pierced. – The Jerusalem Talmud, Sanhedrin Volume 24, and the Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin chapter 4 Volume 37. 

"The sins of those who are hidden with thee will cause thee to be put under an iron yoke, and they will do with thee as with the calf.  I take it upon me that no Israeli should perish; am I not flesh and blood?" – the Midrash on Jeremiah 31:8, the same as Isaiah 53.  "All limits of time as regards the arrival of the Messiah are past." – Sanhedrin 96-99.  The Talmud states clearly that the Messiah had to have come already.

In the Talmud it is noted that God has made various numbers significant in His plan: they noted that there were ten names for idols and prophets, ten trials of Abraham, ten generations from Adam to Noah, and ten generations from Noah to Abraham – the Avotah chapter 36.  They developed from this a dating system.  This Mosaic dating system of Israel is given in Leviticus 26:13-16, and they Messianically applied it in the Talmud.  Moses dated the Messiah's exit in A.D. 33 – Midrash Bresheit , Rabbah  on Genesis, p. 24b of the Warsaw Edition.  Their own dating system says that the Messiah had to exit in 33 A.D. 

The Talmud states that the Temple's destruction in 70 A.D. was predicted by Daniel 9:24-27.  When you get into arguing with rabbis about the weeks of Daniel and what they mean – I have not the space to explain it now – the easiest thing to say is that Daniel 9 says that the Messiah had to come and die before the second Temple was destroyed.  "No, it doesn't", they will tell you, but Yalkut Volume II p. 79d says it does, and so does Nazir  32b.  The Talmud states that the destruction of the Temple in 70 A.D. was predicted by Daniel 9:24-27, when the coming of the Messiah to be cut off was predicted to precede this destruction.  So the Messiah was predicted to arrive and to be killed before 70 A.D., according to the Talmud – and the Rabbis knew this. 

The Talmud confirms that the stone cut without hands in Daniel 2:44, 45 is again the Messiah.  "A stone to strike and a rock to stumble over, and a snare and a trap for Jerusalem".  In Isaiah 8:14 God also predicted that the leaders of Israel would reject the Messiah: "Thou hast become my Yeshua; the stone which the builders rejected has become the chief cornerstone."  - Psalm 118:21, 22, which is the Hillel Rabbah that they sang to Jesus on Palm Sunday. 

Moses Maimonides, Rambam, the greatest rabbi, confirmed that Yeshua the Messiah's appearance in A.D. 30 was Israel's greatest stumbling block.  In Kings and Wars chapter 11, the uncensored edition, (the rabbis have for obvious reasons put out a censored edition) it says "There has never been a greater stumbling block than this problem of Yeshua (Jesus) in 30 A.D.  For three and one-half years, the Shekinah – God's dwelling, His presence – dwelt on the Mount of Olives, waiting to see whether Israel would repent, and calling on them to "Seek ye the Lord while He may be found – call on Him while He is near", but all was in vain.  After three and a half years, the Shekinah returned from the Mount of Olives.  – Rabbis' Lamentation.  

There is something called the Avodat Zerah; it is one thing when Christians say they believe that Jesus did miracles, rose from the dead, and ascended from the Mount of Olives – but what about when people who were not only non-Christians but actually anti-Christian believe all these things?  You can read Roman historians such as Suetonius and Tacitus, and it is fascinating to read of how Jesus was understood by pagan Rome – even they did not deny the things that He did; it was said to be common knowledge throughout the Roman Empire that Jesus rose from the dead.  The Avodat Zerah, however, says that Jesus did miracles as no other rabbi, that his disciples not only healed the sick but even raised the dead in His name, that after He was crucified He rose from the dead, and that He ascended into heaven from the Mount of Olives.  All of that is actually in the Talmud – even His enemies acknowledged the truth of what He did.  This was written by rabbis who were trying to prevent other Jews from believing in Him; but they had to deal with the historicity of His miracles, of His disciples doing miracles, and not only of His crucifixion but also of His resurrection and ascension into heaven – the Talmud admits He did it!  When you confront an Orthodox rabbi with these things, he will not want to deal with it.  However, if you press him, he will tell you that Jesus knew Kabbalah – this was invented centuries later, but they say it anyway – Jesus knew Kabbalistic, mystical secrets and had the ineffable name of Ha Shem (the Tetragrammaton) under His tongue and under His foot and so on, and this is how He performed these miracles.  That is what they will tell you if pressed. 

The rabbis will try to tell you that Psalm 22 does not really say "They have pierced My hands and My feet"; all of Psalm 22 was fulfilled in Matthew 27, but in Hebrew there is a difference in the letter aleph, and they shorten a vov to make it a yud; in this way they will try to change "They have pierced My hands and My feet" into "I am like a lion's paw".  This might be legitimately true, except that someone must have changed something at some point because the Talmud states the following: "At the time of the Messiah's creation, the Holy One – blessed be He – will tell him in detail what will befall him according to the : 'There are souls that have been put away with thee under My throne, and it is their sins which will bend thee down under a yoke of iron and make thee like a calf whose eyes grow dim with suffering.'"  In other words, according to the Talmud, the Messiah would know before He was born that He was coming to die for His people.  "And during the seven-year period preceding the coming of the Son of David, iron beams will be brought and loaded upon his neck until the Messiah's body is bent low.  It was of the ordeal of the Son of David, who wept, saying 'My strength is dried up like a potsherd', Ps. 22:16."   In Yalkuth Shimoni, they connect 'many dogs have encompassed me' (using a midrashic principle called "binyan ab m'shna ketubim") with the Book of Esther , commenting on which, Rabbi Nehemiah said  "They pierced my hands and feet"..Hence, the Pisgah Rabbatai 36:1,2 states directly that Psalm 22 is about the Messiah coming to die.

There are technical linguistic explanations for the translation of 'like a lion' such as a textual reading adjustment called " im crea". Then, in the Yalkut Shimone, we find this: "'Many dogs have encompassed me'" – they connected this somehow with the book of Esther and the king Ahasuerus – "'but the assembly of the wicked have enclosed me; ka a'ri'"; in English, 'they have pierced my hands and my feet' – Rabbi Nehemiah quotes it this way, and the reading of 'pierced' was accepted by ancient rabbis.  In addition, the Peshitat Abitai says directly that Psalm 22 is talking about the Messiah suffering and dying. 

Again, Isaiah 52 and 53 from the Targum Jonathon: "Behold, My servant the Messiah shall prosper; He shall be exalted, and great and very powerful" – it states directly and repeatedly that this is about the Messiah. 

Daniel 9, Megillah 3 aleph of the Targum of the Prophets, was composed by Jonathon ben Uzziel under the guidance of Haggai, Zechariah and Malachi, according to tradition: "And a voice from heaven came forth and said, 'Who is this who has revealed My secrets?' and he further sought to reveal by Targum the inner meaning of the Hegiographa (the portion of Scripture which includes Daniel), but a bat kol went forth from Heaven and said, 'Enough!' 'Why, why should we not read Daniel 9?' 'Because the date of the Messiah is foretold in it.'" And again, Sukkah 52 a regarding the Messiah being pierced: "What is the cause of the mourning in Zechariah 12:12?  It is well according to him who explains that the cause is the slaying of the Messiah, the Son of Joseph, since that well agrees with the Scriptures: 'And they look upon Him, because they have thrust Him through, and shall mourn for Him as one mourns for an only son.'"

We could continue almost indefinitely like this; there is not a single Messianic prophecy that I would use in witnessing to Jewish people that I could not prove not to be a Christian invention applying it to Jesus.  The Talmud agrees, for instance, that Micah 5:2 is about the Messiah, who in some way had to be pre-existent: "O you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, are by no means least in the clans of Judah, for from you going forth from eternity will be one whose existence is from eternity."  From the Targum of Micah 5:1 from Targum Jonathon says this: "And you, O Bethlehem Ephrathah, you who are too small to be numbered among the thousands of the house of Judah, from you shall come forth from Me the Messiah to exercise dominion over Israel – He whose name was mentioned from before the days of creation."  In this way when one meets with the protest that Christians have read something into Micah 5:2 that it does not really say, one may respond that Christians have not read anything into it that Jews did not read into it long before Christianity was established. 

From Genesis 3:1-15: "And it shall be that when the sons of the woman study the Torah diligently and obey its injunctions, they will direct themselves to smite you on the head and slay you" – right from the beginning, they believed that the Messiah had to be slain.  Comments on Genesis 23:5 from the Midrash Rabbah show that Rabbi Tanhumah said, "In the name of Rabbi Shmuel Kozit, she hinted that the seed would arise from another source – the Messiah".  The Midrash deals with Eve's naming of Seth, which is connected with the idea of the Messiah being bruised upon the heel and then bruising the head of the serpent. 

You will only ever do one thing with all of this information: that is, undermine their arguments that these things are Gentile fabrications resulting from Gentile Christians twisting the Jewish Scriptures.  One can show very clearly that these things were understood by ancient rabbis in the same way in which they are understood by Christians.  But there is something called 'ecclentics' or  convictions.  "No one comes unless the Father draws him" – if you bring a Jehovah's Witness to my door, I can win every argument, but it does not mean they will get saved.  The same can be said of a Mormon or again of a rabbi. 

These things are very important – Paul said that we should be "instant in season and out of season, to refute every argument".  I certainly do not deny the importance of this kind of teaching; but without prayer and without holy lives that will provoke the Jews to jealousy, it is useless.  We have a long way to go, but God is doing something.  We will see God work among the Jewish people in the Last Days in the same way in which He worked in the time of the early church – with not only thousands being saved, but even tens of thousands.  We will see whole synagogues split over the issue of Yeshua being the Messiah – but do you know what?  We will also see whole churches split over the same kind of issue.


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