Quotes from Augustine
n Marriage and Family (560 AD)

St, Augustine said “The (sexual) union, then, of male and female for the purpose of procreation is the natural good of marriage. But he makes a bad use of this good  (Sexual union) who uses it bestially, (As part of man’s primal or base instincts aka “The Evil Urge”) This is speaking so that his intention is on the gratification of lust, instead of (being solely upon) the desire of (creating) offspring. On Marriage and Concupiscence book 1 chapter 3

St, Augustine said: Although even men without faith possess this palpable blessing of nature (Sexual union), yet, since they use it not in faith, (Very deep and interesting concept of which the writer was clueless of.) they only turn it to evil and sin. (Augustine here is speaking of the marital bed being in complete defilement – but clearly in Genesis and again in Noah the command of God to be fruitful and to multiply was given to all men – and to use a Hebrew word here therefore it is all Mitzvah whether on a saved or unsaved bed.) In like manner, therefore, the marriage of believers converts to the use of righteousness that carnal concupiscence (Sexual union) by which "the flesh lusteth against the Spirit." (Only when used “Most sparingly” as prescribed his other quotes.) On Marriage and Concupiscence book 1 chapter 5

St, Augustine said: (Speaking of unbeleivers) However circumspect they be in their cohabitation,(Sexual relations) (Even when) studiously limiting it (Sexual relations) to (only) the begetting of children, - (Unbeleivers) really have no conjugal chastity (This term and doctrine is in utter defiance of the Mitzvah of God and Paul recounting that the Husband and wife are to be in constant sexual relations – except when upon a vow and that is for only a few days.) in themselves. For inasmuch as chastity is a virtue, (Abstinence from sex of married people is not a Mtizvah – it is a disobedience that cursed by God.) hating unchastity (sexual using) as its (conjugal chastity’s) contrary vice, and as all the virtues (even those whose operation is by means of the body)(Childbirth) have their seat in the soul, (He is saying that sex is of the soul and thus eternally corrupt) how (then) can the body (Of a believer or unbeliever that partakes of such vile affections) be in any true sense said to be chaste, when the soul itself (in having sexual relations) is committing fornication against the true God? On Marriage and Concupiscence book 1 chapter 5

St, Augustine said: For it certainly was not just that obedience should be rendered by his servant, that is, his body, to him, who had not obeyed his own Lord. Well, then, how significant is the fact that the eyes, and lips, and tongue, and hands, and feet, and the bending of back, and neck, and sides, are all placed within our power(Augustine here seems to know of a variety of sexual acts and sexual positions that a “chaste virginal monk” should not.)   to be applied to such operations (Sexual relations) as are suitable (Made suitable by God expressly for such acts.) to them, when we have a body free from impediments and in a sound state of health; but when it must come to man’s great function of the procreation of children the members (Man’s penis and the woman’s vagina) which were expressly created for this purpose (These male and female organs) will not obey the direction of the (human) will, but lust has to be waited for to set these members in motion, (Augustine has no recognition that it is God that programmed into men and women such sexual libido aka desires. The squelching of those desires/libido is tantamount of quenching the spirit.) as if it had legal right over them, (Resisting the devil, and resisting temptation is not resisting sexual union in marriage) and sometimes it refuses to act when the mind wills, (So Augustine here declares that in his own experience that sexual orgasmic union can not be always had at the drop of a hat. – Once again he does not seem to be aware why this is or isn’t – He is saying it comes like the wind.) while often it acts against its will! (He is speaking here of his continual bouts with sex – Augustine was married and after he converted he left his wife and children and became a monk is express disobedience to the words of Paul and Christ.) Must not this (God created, God ordained, and God commanded, Sexual desire / Libido that results in unbridled sexual union in the bonds of matrimony) bring the blush of shame over the freedom of the human will, that by (The existence of such love between a man and his wife – as Christ so loves his bride the church) its contempt of God, its own Commander, (This cry of anguish in Augustine is oh so Talmudic – as his flesh can not live by the doctrines and traditions imposed upon him by men.) it has lost all proper command for itself over its own (Sexual) members? (And their God created, God ordained, and God commanded functions.) On Marriage and Concupiscence book 1 chapter 7

St, Augustine said: This, then, was the reason why the first human pair, (Adam and his wife –whom God had commanded to be fruitful and multiply) on experiencing in the flesh that motion (The motion of sexual intercourse) which was indecent because (Of Adam and Eve being) disobedient. And on feeling the shame of their nakedness, covered these offending members with fig-leaves; in order that, at the very least, by the will of the ashamed offenders, a veil might be thrown over that which was put into (sexual) motion without the will of those who wished it: (This notion of an uncontrollable animal urge day and night for sex does not really exist in nature, it is straight out of the Talmud as related to their perverted sexual beliefs concerning gentiles.) and since shame arose from what indecently pleased (Sexual arousal via viewing each others naked flesh), decency might be attained by concealment.(The only way to stop themselves from having continual sex [unto death by Augustine’s reasoning] was to cover themselves) For Augustine to suggest such things demonstrates how filled with lust, and how tormented his soul was in trying to fulfill the demands of Talmudic Asceticism – so that he might enter into an imagined state of pharisaical spiritual bliss. On Marriage and Concupiscence book 1 chapter 7

St, Augustine said: This disease of concupiscence (Augustine has no recognition that it is God that programmed into men and women such sexual libido aka desires. The squelching of those desires/libido is tantamount of quenching the spirit.)is what the apostle refers to, when, speaking to married believers, he says:  (1 Thessalonians 4:3-5) "This is the will of God, even your C, that ye should abstain from fornication: that every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour; not in the disease of desire (KJV Lust of concupiscence Greek Pathei [Pathos – To be affected by something in a good or bad way, to suffer or be afflicted – Christ learned by the things he suffered, Paul was afflicted but it was the grace of God]  Epi-Thumias  [Epi – Springing upon from, Thumiaas To set one heart upon, to desire and long for, to desire earnestly] To be affected by ones desires. or to trained up by the bit and bridal of ones desires as the gentiles – is not limited to sex – Note that only in the Talmud is this assertion of the preoccupation with sexual lust by the gentiles made.) even as the Gentiles which know not God." -- he must know that even his own vessel is not to be possessed in the disease of carnal concupiscence. And this counsel is not to be understood as if the apostle prohibited conjugal - that is to say, lawful and honourable - cohabitation; but so as that that cohabitation (which would have no adjunct of unwholesome lust, were it not that man’s perfect freedom of choice had become by preceding sin so disabled that it has this fatal adjunct) should not be a matter of will, but of necessity, without which, nevertheless, it would be impossible to attain to the fruition of the will itself in the procreation of children. On Marriage and Concupiscence book 1 chapter 9

We will make some comments here on what Augustine is teaching and how he was no scholar of the Greek New Testament nor was he a Scholar of the Greek Septuagint.


Genesis 31:30 And now, though thou wouldest needs be gone, because thou sore longedst after thy father's house, yet wherefore hast thou stolen my gods?


Genesis 49:6 O my soul, come not thou into their secret; unto their assembly, mine honour, be not thou united: for in their anger they slew a man, and in their selfwill they digged down a wall.


Psalm 127:3-5 3Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward. 4 As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth. 5 Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate.

Psalm 126:3-5 (Septuagint) Behold the inheritance of the Lord –Children, the reward of the fruit of the womb. As arrows in the hand of a mighty man so are the children of those that were outcasts.  Blessed is the man who shall satisfy (Plerosei – fully satisfy or sate) his desire (Epi-thumia) with (Procreating them) them, they (He and his children) shall not be ashamed when they speak with their (He and his children) enemies in the gates. (Because of their number they shall be a force to recon with)

Psalm 103:5 Who satisfieth thy mouth with good things; so that thy youth is renewed like the eagle's.

Psalm 102:5 (Septuagint) Who satisfies (Empiplonta – To satisfy, To sate, To have full enjoyment.) thy desire (Epi-Thumia) with good (Agathos – virtuous, blessed, or fruitfulness) things (Not in Greek) so that thy youth shall be renewed like that of the eagle.
The English word order here is slightly different than the Greek but it alters the understanding of this passage The Greek reads: (God) Who fulfills to the sating of thy virtuous or blessed procreative desires, so that thy youth shall be renewed as the eagle.  David here declares that the old age of Abraham and his youthful vigor with Sarah, and later with his second wife is the blessing of God in their continued ardent sexual relations. 

Psalm 38:9-10 Lord, all my desire (Epi-Thumia) is before thee; and my groaning is not hid from thee. My heart panteth, my strength faileth me: as for the light of mine eyes, it also is gone from me. My lovers (Philoi) and my friends (7453 Rea Neighbor, 7453 Rea To shout, --Those close to you who you would call upon for aid.) stand aloof from my sore (5061 Nega – Plague [My time of trouble}); and my kinsmen stand afar off.

Thou shalt love (Agapeo) thy neighbor (7453 Rea Neighbor, 7453 Rea To shout, --Those close to you who you would call upon for aid.) as thyself

 St, Augustine said: But in the married, as these things (Concerning conjugal chastity) are desirable and praiseworthy, so the others (Having sexual intercourse) are (only) to be tolerated, (Tolerated by who? The Priest in confession? We know this to be true.  When I was in grade school and middle school I heard from catholic girls some of the sexual questions asked by their priests demanding to know among other things what sex acts they committed in detail, as well as how often, and with whom. Tolerated by Calvinists.  We have taken pains on this website to meticulous record what the Lord spoke and guided us to see regarding John Calvin being a fanatical disciple of Saint Augustine, a Roman Catholic Doctor or La, a Roman Catholic and a University Professor. Of the disciples of Luther Simons and Calvin – Only the followers of John Calvin follow to the letter Saint Augustine’s 6th century repressive Roman Catholic doctrines on sex and marriage. Calvinism is its purest form today can be seen in the Amish People, the Dutch Reformed Church and a half a dozen other bastions of Calvinism. The rest of fundamentalism has become a toxic mixture of Menno Simon’s and John Calvin’s doctrines. The dirty little secret in fundamentalism is that as these churches have increasing embraced the 6th century Roman Catholicism of John Calvin over the past century or so they have gone sterile in their ability to win souls for Christ, and sterile in their families to procreate. With the exception of large bus programs that bribe the unsaved with fistfuls of candy and cans of soda, one needs to look no further than the languishing Sunday School Program to see their churches or denominations future.  Tolerated by Victorian feminist brides? Beginning in the 1860’s Queen Victoria and the Anglican Church exported their modified views of Saint Augustine’s doctrines on Sex and marriage placing women in the driver’s seat rather than men and were a mainstay of American culture until the sexual revolution of the late 1960’s and early 1970’s. Which all became undone by the New Militant Feminists of the Mid-1970’s and 1980’s.

 been driven back to its core believers in the Fundamentalist, Pentecostal and Charismatic church.   

that no lapse occur into damnable sins; that is, into fornications and adulteries. To escape this evil, even such embraces of husband and wife as have not procreation for their object, but serve an overbearing concupiscence, are permitted, (This phrase “Is Permitted” is found nowhere in the New Testament. It is a term specifically used in the Talmud. Dealing with the Sages and Rabbi’s extra-biblical doctrines and teachings that they expected common believers to obey.) On Marriage and Concupiscence book 1 chapter 16


Our final comments are that John Calvin and Martin Luther were sworn monks of the Order of St. Augustine. Sword to restore the prominence of the order over all other orders of Catholic monks, and sworn to restore the prominence of St. Augustine’s doctrine over the whole of Catholicism – In the protestant revival the legacy that Luther and Calvin left behind was creating their own orders within the Protestant church and setting in them Augustine’s 6th century Roman Catholic doctrines effectively rolling back at that time 900 years of Roman Catholic doctrine that had not been taught by Augustine.