Muslim woman gives sex advice on Arab TV
From all that I have read and seen of Islam this article surprised me. It is unimaginable that the Imams and Muffis have not issued Fatwa’s against her for lewd talk or undermining and corrupting Muslim men and women. And it is equally surprising that Islamic “celibate” zealots from
By NADIA ABOU EL-MAGD, Associated Press Writer Sun Dec 3, 4:44 PM ET
CAIRO, Egypt - Heba Kotb is a conservative Muslim, wears an Islamic head scarf, and goes on television once a week to talk — frankly and in great detail — about sex.
On her show,
"Big Talk," Kotb answers questions from
Muslims all over the
"How do I talk about these issues? Very seriously," the Egyptian sexologist says. "I put on a mask-like face and make sure I speak in the right tone of voice."
She also does it by talking about sex in an Islamic light, arguing that the faith is in favor of pleasure for both men and women, with one important caveat — that it be only in the context of marriage.
proud of my religion," Kotb told The Associated
Press in an interview at
While it may be true that in ancient times sex and sexuality flourished in middle-eastern countries, and at the same time it sex and sexuality languished in the Pre-Roman Catholic Church from the third century onward. It is equally true that from the cultural height of Islam in the 8th century until now, Islam has been a religion of growing darkness in science, medicine, education, and in sex and sexuality. Islam is as Judaism was at the time of Christ being driven by religious zealotry from competing schools of rabbis each showing how much more they fanatically follow the law.
Responding to the ridiculous statement from this Muslim Dr. Ruth above, it is recorded in the bible that God made known the purpose of sex and sexuality to the Jews long, long, long, before Mohammed became the twinkle in some woman’s eye in the 6th century. In the Old Testament sex and sexuality were openly, and frankly, discussed and lauded by Moses, David and Solomon in the books of Genesis, Ruth, Psalms, the Song of Solomon, and Ecclesiastes, And even in the prophet Ezekiel whole chapters are devoted to sexual activities that have most Talmudic bible believing Christians would declare as pornographic writings [And we absolutely mean what we say here.] if they would read and understand the Hebrew or Greek text of these passages, as opposed to their reading “cleansed” and “purged” texts the church has read since the time of Jerome and the Latin Vulgate.
This obscuring of sex and sexuality in the bible first occurred with the so-called Sages and Rabbi’s in the Mishnah, and were later amplified in the Talmud. It is these sayings of these evil and perverse sages and rabbis that first falsely and erroneously suggested that SEX was part of “The Evil Urge in Men” and that God created Adam in a sinful state from the beginning. [The evil urge being “Original Sin” in Adam prior to the fall.] These perverse rabbi’s and sages defined the evil urge as: 1) To hunger for anything to eat – For example: To even eat a piece or celery is part of the evil urge. 2) To thirst for anything to drink -- For example: To drink a few ounces of water is part of the evil urge. 3) To desire any kind of shelter regardless of how humble is part of the evil urge, for example to live in a tent or lean to. And finally, 3) To desire sex even on your wedding night, or seeking to use sex for strictly procreation purposes in married is part of the evil urge.
It is they that first falsely and erroneously suggested that when Eve was separated from Adam that these evil urges were transferred from the man Adam to the woman Eve. [And thus in the Mishnah and the Talmud all women are declared to be by nature evil, corrupt, and perverse.
And it was these so-called Rabbi’s and sages that falsely and erroneously stated that Adam was having sex with all the animals in Genesis prior to the creation of Eve.
We should note here that the comments in these books are both very inconsistent and erratic and in many places contradictory as these Rabbi’s and Sages attempt to be as god judging and being judged of no man or by god themselves as they make their endless array of doctrine and mind bending traditions, and deciding what is lawful and unlawful for Jews.
And these falsely and erroneously declare that after eating the fruit that Eve seduced with uncontrollable sex with Adam by that by this sexual activity she caused Adam to sin against God and partake of this fruit as well.
And we will throw into this mix that these Talmudic rabbi’s and sages are also the ones that falsely and erroneously first suggested that Onan was slain for masturbation and in the Talmud declared masturbation a sin unto death – when the text clearly says that Onan’s sin was that he despised and hated this woman and discharged his seed in the dirt rather then allow her to raise up righteous seed unto as commanded by the Lord. – This woman that was to be the great, great, great, etc grandmother of the Messiah – and for this contemptuous act God struck him dead.
In the bible the first commandment of God given unto men --To the Jews first, and later unto the church was to be fruitful and multiply. [We say that not because they were not said to Adam and Noah and Abraham first, – but because the written record of these events were given by God Through Moses to the Jews first and over time disseminated throughout the world.] This single commandment of God commandment 00001 has suffered the greatest disobedience of all of them both by the Jews and by the Church.
For God NOT THE DEVIL created sex and made it to be glorious, holy, and deeply pleasurable, from the very beginning.
And also God NOT THE DEVIL created Adam and Eve’s beautiful bodies and all their sexual organs. That is the woman’s breasts and gracious curves, her buttocks and her private parts were all created to be pleasing to the eye, their scent to be pleasing to the nose, and their taste was created to be pleasing -- as also the bible records this of every fruit and tree in the garden. – Likewise Adam’s body his chest his abs his buttocks and his privates were all created to be pleasing to the eye, their scent to be pleasing to the nose, and their taste was created to be pleasing.
We note here that the same rabbi’s and sages that declare that Adam and Eve were the crowning achievement of God in His creation declare in the Talmud that Adam and Eve when they came to know their bodies were naked hid from one another so that in the garden before the fall they would not see “the perverseness” of each others nakedness, and that they then also sought to cover “the perverseness” of their nakedness from the sight of God. And it is the rabbis and sages that first suggested that Adam and Eve were not naked in the garden but were clothed with light (This being utterly contradictory to their sayings concerning Adam created with sin and the evil urge) and that once they ate of the fruit the light they had been covered with departed from them.
Regardless of how ”spiritual” this has been made to sound by modern rabbi’s, Catholic priests, and protestant preachers this is a complete and utter lie, and a slap in the face of God who from the beginning created Adam and Eve’s bodies to be looked upon,, and in that looking upon to create desire, to touch, to kiss, to hold, and to have lots and lots of sex in obedience to Commandment 00001.
As the household is the center of the local church, the marital bed (And we are speaking specifically of sex here) is the center of the union or marriage of a man and women. Conversely from the beginning with the ascetics among these rabbis and sages, of the Talmud to their Christian disciples in Tertullian and Augustine, to the end of the 9th century where the Muslims almost overthrew the whole of the church, and later in the 16th century this was renewed by the Protestant Augustinian monks John Calvin and Martin Luther all of which have taught husbands and wives were to withhold and defraud themselves daily from each other in order to achieve a daily intimate contact, and false spirituality holiness with God.
Know, that this treating with contempt and disgust that which is most Holy unto the Lord, and which God regards as most Holy between a man and a woman and to teach men (Believers whether they are Jews or Christians) to also sin against God by treating with contempt and speaking as evil these gifts -- is spoken of by Christ and God as an unpardonable sin. --
In the beginning before the fall the bible records that God would visit the man in the cool of the evening -- the rabbis and sages reported that in such meetings that the man and woman were clothed with light and would sit like two bumps on a log while recounting their day to God and receive instruction.
It is understood that in the garden and by references to this by the words of God Himself and by the prophets including David and Solomon that by day Adam tended the field and Eve did certain duties as well, and at night or at the cool of the Adam put his hand to Eve. And at that point God would come and visit [While they were having sex and the voice of the bride and the voice of the bridegroom and their delight would be heard by God] And during this time the Lord would come to visit them – And in the midst of this they would pray, they would worship, they would sing out loud, and thank God for all the wonders they had created. - David and Solomon understood these things. And David writes upon my coite I will sing, upon my coite will I pray. etc.
Sexually not giving oneself to one another daily is a sin except for a short time when making a vow unto the Lord both in both the old and new testament.
So hence in ascetic Talmudic Judaism the idea of sex only for procreation was born and the truly ascetic Rabbi was to live in a state of chaste marriage or sexless marriage and strive against any temptation to touch his own wife lest he be defiled and cut off from God for any prescribed period of time. These teachings along with a lot of other talmudic doctrines were transferred over to the church during the second century by Rabbi Johnanan and his disciples and is recorded in the Talmud and in the writings of the Apostolic Fathers – Tertullian is the first to actively preach these doctrines in his Epistles concerning Christian women’s dress, Christian women wearing veils and Christian women’s relations with their husbands and families. And later in the 6th Century Augustine in revisiting Tertullian’s writings and wrote into church doctrine that this Talmudic chastity in marriage was to be practiced by all believers. This was held by the church until later part of the 9th century when Islam almost overthrew all of Rome and the church – so that one day when the pope looked out at the Muslim forces having captured the churches of St. Peter and Paul outside the walls of the Vatican – he had a revelation concerning Commandment 00001 To be fruitful and multiply. That it was not sinful but rather the duty of every believer to have their quiver full of children and thus pay their tithe or due to God. And thus from that time up until the mid 1960’s Catholic families traditionally had bid families where the protestants did not.
The reason for this is that in the 16th century Luther and Calvin were both Augustinian monks, disciples of St. Augustine and as such were sworn by their order to seek to reestablish the doctrines and teachings of St. Augustine as prominent over the entire Roman Catholic church – and being unable to do so instead they reintroduced Augustine doctrines of predestination, eternal security, etc and Augustine’s Talmudic sexuality to all their roman catholic converts and an Anabaptist converts. So that a good segment of the church is not living in the continuation of the protestant revival but rather they are living instead in a revival of 6th century Roman Catholicism.
And ironically this is exactly the brand of Roman Catholicism that Mohammed was raised up, and I have read Mohammed was once a priest before he apostatized. I have also read Mohammed personally knew Augustine.
For example, Islam "stresses the importance of foreplay," Kotb said, and she often stresses to listeners that women should also enjoy sex.
We as bible believing Christians teach that the bible is first to be understood always as literal, but in utter hypocrisy through the lens of Talmudic/6th century Roman Catholic Church (We are speaking specifically on the writings of Saint Augustine regarding sex and marriage. Which John Calvin revived in his doctrine and teachings concerning sex and marriage that have leavened through the whole of Evangelicalism, Fundamentalism, Pentecostalism and Charismaticism. And the flip side of these doctrines and teachings regarding sex and marriage are seen in Victorian Feminism which have also that have also leavened through the whole of Evangelicalism, Fundamentalism, Pentecostalism, and Charismaticism.
Peering through this corrupt lens is their any wonder the disciples of these find themselves in loveless marriages, having passionless sex, and partners devoid of any loyalty?
Peering through these corrupt lens at the Song of Solomon (And we need to mention here that this is far from the only biblical text that if rightly translated from the original Greek and Hebrew contains highly charged sexual imagery and language.) is it any wonder that these supposed bible literalists blush, and pull away from any literal interpretation here and declare that such images and words (Spoken even by God himself) are evil and perverse, and will defile them. Here these walk fully in the steps of as their fathers, the ascetic rabbis and sages of the Mishnah and Talmud.
Shall the Lord Jesus Christ be any less displeased with them than with the Scribes and the Pharisees – who he condemned to hell for teaching any one of God’s little ones disobedience to the Commandments of God and Christ?
What we have seen in the church instead are women that have been taught all their life that sex is fleshly evil, and devilish, and to lend one’s self to this makes one unholy, and is degrading as well as defiling. So that between their parents, training up a child in these things when they were young, and the church reinforcing these things, when they are old, (Of age and beyond) whatever natural libido was afforded them by God, has been utterly killed, in the name of a false holiness and righteousness before God.
These feelings of guilt and being made dirty by any type of sexual contact make the idea of having sexual relations daily or more than once a day are so deeply embedded, that for all too many Christian women it is as if they would be climbing in bed with the devil himself or that she bas made herself into a whore.
Leviticus 19:13 Thou shalt not defraud (Misthos – Their hire wages ) thy neighbour (Koime-Thesetai To lull to Coite, or To draw to Coite [This can also be understood as Koite-or foreplay that goes nowhere, or a husband stirring up His wife and then rolling over. The defrauding works both ways. Paul is quoting this passage in 1 Corinthians 7:2), neither rob (Misthoton Their hire wages) him: the wages of him that is hired shall not abide with thee all night until the morning. The wages of marriage are to be dispensed nightly – This is why Paul declares that no man or woman should marry unless they have a burning libido.
What kind of relationship is a husband and wife to have?
Job 41:16-17 One is so near to another, that no air can come between them.(between their bodies) They are joined (As in one flesh in communion) one to another, (And in so doing) they stick together, that they cannot be sundered. (That they cannot be broken apart in divorce.)
The above passage is the passage that Christ quotes from when He declared: What God hath joined together Let no man put assunder.
is every one that feareth the LORD; that walketh in his ways. For thou
shalt eat the labour of thine hands: happy
shalt thou be, and it shall be well with thee. Thy
wife shall be as a fruitful vine by the sides of thine house: (Running over the wall as
Joseph) thy children like olive plants
round about thy table. Behold, that thus shall
the man be blessed that feareth
Solomon declares that when David his father spoke these things that “The eating of the labor or thine hands and the bliss” was in large part to a man’s labor of his hands in the night to build his household upon the marital bed.
David speaks of these activities on his bed (Greek Coitus) when he says:
Psalm 6:6 I am weary with my groaning; all the night make I my bed (Coite) to swim; I water my couch with my tears. Here the marital bed is the place for repentance – Forgive US as WE forgive those who trespass against us. And one test of that repentance and that forgiveness should be the level of sexual relations there after. If there are none, or it is tepid, the repentance and forgiveness have not reached heart level.
Psalm 41:3 The LORD will strengthen him upon the bed (Coite) of languishing: (Hebrew 1741 D’Way Illness, sorrow, weakness faint or afflicted) Thou wilt make all his bed (Coite) in his sickness. (Hebrew 2482 As An Adornment.) Here we read of a promise of God in keeping of marital relations even when one is in sorrow, feels weak, feels faint, or has an affliction. And that not only with the Lord Strengthen them in their Coite but he will bless honor or adorn that Coite. Just as the Lord honors blesses and adorns those who serve and obey Him even when it is costly.
David here is speaking of Sarah that no longer had strength to have relations with Abraham.
This passage is picked up by the writer of Hebrews when he says By faith Sarah received the strength to conceive. The meaning is she received strength to continue in her sexual relations and she conceived. And we might add here that she continued to honor the Lord and her husband with relations after she conceived.
Among all that we have mentioned already we have an extremely skewed view on sex as to its value and purpose. (Views where not held by Christ, the Apostles, the early church or Moses and the Prophets) In the life of Abraham he and His wife were commanded to have sex daily. For almost 60 years they did so before Isaac was born, and they probably worked on this both in the day and at night. – So when God found Abraham outside of the tent, and Sarah in the tent weak and infirm due to her age – Gold told them to get at it again and Sarah laughed and said my inner plumbing is dead – she was not talking about periods but that her insides on the way in were completely dead also – so to say that Sarah didn’t have any more libido would have been a complete understatement. God did not even respond to this, He said you shall by this time next year have a child and Sarah’s obedience – she discovered a fountain of youth and she was invigorated and after she had Isaac she continued in her daily bread with Abraham for decades to come.
The flagrant disobedience to God’s Commandment 00001 by the church in the name of a false holiness and false spirituality – is an utter slap in the face of God. Who created such for pleasure, enjoyment, health, and as part of our relationship with Him.
Psalm 63:6 When I remember thee (This is a speaking out or proclaiming in prayer thanking the Lord for all He hath done.) upon my bed, (Coite) and meditate on thee in the night watches. (The times before and after midnight.) So here what is stated is what would occur in the garden with Adam and his wife. As they embraced in becoming one flesh the Lord would come and they would remember or declare their day to the Lord, and quite probably in the quiet throws of afterglow they would be quiet in meditate and the Lord would speak and tell them what tasks he had for them the following day before departing.
Psalm 149:5 Let the saints be joyful in glory (The Shekina of God) : let them sing aloud upon their beds. (Coite) Here we see the manifest presence of God appearing upon the bed of Coitus, as those that are holy joyfully rejoice in the Lord as part of their relations.
Psalm 17:14 From men which are thy hand, O LORD, from men of the world, which have their portion in this life, and whose belly thou fillest with thy hid treasure: (so that) they (Their households) are full of children, and leave (They can impart their spiritual substance) the rest of their substance to their babes.
Job 7:13-14 When I say, My bed (Coite) shall comfort me, (As Isaac was comforted) my couch shall ease my complaints; Then thou scarest me with dreams, and terrifiest me through visions:
Ecclesiastes 11:6 In the morning sow thy seed, and in the evening withhold not (Hebrew 3240 Yanah To settle or To rest, 3239 Yanoah Resting place ) thine hand (From thy wife): for thou knowest not whether shall prosper, either this or that, or whether they both shall be alike good.
sleep (On the marriage bed) of a (Poor) labouring man is sweet, whether he eat
little or much: (It shall be like the mana -- he shall be filled and satisfied) but the abundance of the
rich (Can afford him a devoted and loving
wife and) will
not suffer (allow) him to sleep. (Any comfort upon his marriage bed)
This verse is also the conclusion of the Song of Songs; riches can not buy one true love and devotion.
Consider this also in the pursuit of the riches in the prosperity gospel. Consider this also in the preaching of Jesus pouring out wealth and riches to his bribe as to turn the head of those that can be tempted to become his bride – such would attract the greedy, schemers, the materialistic, --all of whom are clearly disqualified as being part of the bride of Christ in the epistles of Paul and the Apostles.
Kotb's frankness is a hit in a region where sex education is minimal, male-female contact is often discouraged and talk on the subject is usually in hushed tones, allowing myths to circulate freely.
She lectured in
Kotb, 39 and married
with three daughters, studied sexology with Maimonides
University, a private (Jewish)
school in Florida, and combined it with her own knowledge of her religion to produce a dissertation titled (Her thesis in this Jewish University was) "Sexuality in
Islam." She opened a sexology clinic in
She started "Big Talk" on the independent Egyptian satellite channel El-Mehwar more than two months ago.
Much of her advice is straight biology — laying out facts rarely aired elsewhere. Nothing is too sensitive. She discusses sexual positions, female orgasm, oral sex (allowed, "since there is no religious text banning it" [Either in the bible or Koran.] ), even masturbation (allowed but frowned upon, but at least preferable to unmarried or adulterous sex, which is "haram," meaning forbidden by religion [by the bible and the Koran]).
She takes a strict Islamic line on homosexuality (As it is forbidden in the bible and the Koran) — she calls it a disease.
Along with doctors, she sometimes brings Islamic clerics onto her show, and many callers ask about the religion's rulings on sexual issues.
trumps all else on her show, some complain that it's part of a general
inclination in the
"After Islamic banks, Islamic fashion, Islamic TV channels, Islamic hairdressers, Islamic swimsuits, Islamic writers ... now Islamic sex? This is too much," protested Egyptian feminist writer Mona Helmi in a column in the Egyptian pro-government weekly Rose el-Youssef.
"Sex is an emotional and human condition, not a religious or identity issue," she said.
Some complain that youngsters are watching the show.
"So now girls and boys have heard all about Heba's talk about sex ... that will let them know more than they should and will get them excited," Somia, a housewife, told AP as she watched "Big Talk," She was too embarrassed about the subject matter to give her full name.
Kotb says frankness is essential and believes 80 percent of divorces in the Arab world are due to sexual problems brought on by ignorance and societal pressure, such as the idea that man must only marry a virgin.
Many Islamic women know nothing about their bodies, not to mention sex, as they were raised to believe sex is for men only and is dirty, and defiling before Allah, she says.
She gives sex education courses for unmarried youths with the consent of their parents, but in her consulting practice takes only married couples. She says she is booked up for two months with couples from across the Arab world.
beautiful thing what she is doing," said Abier
El-Barbary, a psychotherapist and faculty member of